{"id":17642,"date":"2025-03-12T16:54:25","date_gmt":"2025-03-12T14:54:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/?p=17642"},"modified":"2026-10-24T15:07:03","modified_gmt":"2026-10-24T13:07:03","slug":"freddy-elbaiady","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/freddy-elbaiady\/","title":{"rendered":"Freddy El-Bayadi: Egypt Faces a Debt Crisis. Where Did the Borrowed Money Go?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Photography: Hayder Kandil<br \/>\nDesign: Aya Saber<br \/>\nVideo editing: Khaled Abdallah<\/strong><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"27\" data-end=\"303\">Freddy El-Bayadi, a member of the Egyptian House of Representatives for the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, has taken part in discussing a number of legislative and oversight issues, and has submitted several briefing requests on various topics, including the change to the general secondary certificate system, train accidents and the government&#8217;s economic policies.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"305\" data-end=\"518\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">In this interview, El-Bayadi discusses the role of Parliament in overseeing the government and the extent to which the absence of an opposition affects legislative work, as well as his views on the economic situation, human rights and the future of political life in Egypt, among other issues.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recommended reading:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"305\" data-end=\"518\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/hamdeen-sabahy\/\"><b>Hamdeen Sabahi: Today&#8217;s economic situation is the result of the breaking of the January Revolution<br \/>\n<\/b><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/altantawy\/\">Ahmed Tantawi: Egypt needs an alternative to the authorities and the opposition (interview)<br \/>\n<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/hisham-kassem\/\">Hisham Kassem: I asked the president not to run, and they imprisoned me (interview)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h1>Parliament and the Opposition<b><\/b><\/h1>\n<p><b><br \/>\nTo begin, we would like to talk about the briefing requests you have submitted on many controversial topics. Was there any response or reply regarding those requests?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is important to clarify that not all briefing requests are discussed. Some requests have indeed been discussed, while others received neither discussion nor a response. Nevertheless, these requests found a wide echo in the media and in public opinion. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Under the established procedures, briefing requests are submitted to Parliament, where they are discussed by the House in coordination with the competent committee, and officials study these requests or respond to them. There are requests that have indeed been discussed, and for some of them we succeeded in obtaining a response. For example, I submitted a briefing request concerning the bridge that was being built in Heliopolis, which is an urban and cultural area. This bridge was considered a disfigurement of the area, and a request to halt its construction was indeed submitted. The request was answered and construction of the bridge was halted.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand, there are other requests that were not discussed and received no response. But in the end, this is our role, which we will carry out until our last day in Parliament, because it is a trust placed in us by the people, regardless of the extent of the response.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><b>Many criticisms are directed at Parliament regarding its oversight role over the government. What is your comment on that?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Parliament&#8217;s role is fundamentally one of oversight and legislation, but does Parliament perform its role adequately? Unfortunately, the answer is no. When we reach the point of taking action or holding a minister to account, or rejecting a law proposed by the government, we find that the majority tends to vote in favour of the government, and this is because the majority controlling Parliament is made up of pro-government parties. Although there are some opposition members who express their views forcefully inside Parliament, the majority always sides with the government&#8217;s opinion, even if that opinion is not the best for the citizen and the nation.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unfortunately, the majority always sides with the government&#8217;s opinion, and this is a problem. There must be genuine listening to the other opinion, because an opinion that differs from the government&#8217;s is not necessarily harmful to it or to the nation. On the contrary, the opposition often has opinions and proposals that serve the government&#8217;s interest and the public good. Nevertheless, the government ignores those opinions, only to discover later that listening to them would have led to better results. What is required is to analyse and study differing opinions before rejecting them, because this promotes decisions that serve the interest of everyone, the government and the nation alike.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>You said that some briefing requests are not considered or discussed. What is the reason?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is governed by Parliament&#8217;s policies, which decide which requests are considered and which will be ignored. It depends on how Parliament views the importance of the briefing requests submitted, and there are several factors beyond the control of those who submit briefing requests that determine this. Parliament is the one that judges which requests will be discussed or ignored.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>What is your view of the opposition&#8217;s performance inside Parliament?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The opposition&#8217;s crisis inside Parliament lies in its small numbers, and there are some members who are counted as opposition but who in reality do not play their role in the opposition. Those who actually oppose inside Parliament are few in number, and although their voices are sometimes loud, their impact is unfortunately unclear, because the majority prevails in the end. This is a problem linked to the composition of a Parliament controlled by pro-government parties. Had the number of opposition members been larger, their impact would have been greater in favour of the citizen and the nation, and not only in favour of the opposition. The greater the diversity of differing opinions, the more positive the effect on the decision-maker, leading to votes for the most beneficial decisions.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Does that mean you see the electoral alliance between the opposition and the pro-government parties in the 2020 elections as positive, and that it should be repeated because it strengthens the opposition&#8217;s presence inside Parliament?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is not the time for that decision; many factors are still missing. When we decided in 2020 to enter the parliamentary elections within an electoral alliance with pro-government parties, we saw that this was the only way to enter Parliament. We had many candidates in the individual-seat races, but unfortunately they did not win, even though they deserved to. Some of them challenged the election results in court, but so far these cases have not been decided. We therefore considered this approach the only means of entering Parliament and dealing with the issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, we always try to be positive and to take part in the political scene as long as there is an opportunity to do so. We set clear conditions when we entered this alliance: that it was an electoral alliance only, not a political one. We did not give up our principles of opposing the government&#8217;s policies inside Parliament, and we acted according to our vision. Through our experience, observers saw how the party and its MPs expressed their positions clearly, and at times we were the only party strongly opposing the government&#8217;s policies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for the upcoming elections, we have not yet decided our final position. We are waiting for more information that will help us make the decision. In the previous elections, there was an internal debate in the party about entering the alliance with pro-government parties, and there were voices within the party opposing it, but the majority within the party approved the alliance. So now is not the time to talk about the upcoming elections without full clarity of vision.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Some believe that an alliance with pro-government parties strips the opposition of its most important condition, which is independence. What is your view?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I respect this differing opinion and appreciate its merit. But the question that arises here is: how could this alliance strip the opposition of its independence? This alliance did not impose any political conditions, and it was not a purely political alliance. No pressure was exerted on the party&#8217;s MPs to adopt particular policies or positions. The party&#8217;s MPs were not bound by any restrictions, and no red lines were drawn for them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We spoke and took our positions based on our principles and our political vision. This means that we enjoyed full independence and moved freely, except for the restrictions imposed on everyone in the political scene, such as restrictions on the freedom of political life, the media and freedom of expression. But our alliance with pro-government parties did not place any restrictions on us as a party or on our MPs inside Parliament.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><b>Parliament has been accused of issuing legislation that has weighed heavily on citizens and was unfair, and despite objections to most of it, it insisted on passing it, as happened with the Criminal Procedure Law. Why? And what is your comment?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W2ajKa6gFa0?si=K925xfI5-PT4Nwc9\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This question is better directed to the majority controlling Parliament and to the government. For example, on the Criminal Procedure Law, we rejected the law in principle, and Parliament received many observations and objections to this law. Although the majority supported the law, we tried to engage with the amendments and submitted many of them, but they were all rejected. This means that the government and the majority insist on not accepting amendments or differing opinions from the various parties.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The law was passed as they wanted, without hearing any amendments or opposing views. Therefore, the question should be directed to the government and the majority: why do you not listen to the differing opinions and the amendments proposed by the people&#8217;s representatives, who represent different sectors? We defend the interests of lawyers, journalists, justice and other different groups. We have no personal interest, and we believe it is in the interest of justice and the citizen for the law to be fair.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Different viewpoints were presented inside Parliament on the Criminal Procedure Law, some of which may be right and some wrong, but in the end all of these opinions were rejected. This raises a big question mark: why are all the proposals rejected? This question should be directed to the government and the majority that insists on passing the law without any amendments.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition, there are many laws that were passed even though they are not in the citizen&#8217;s interest, but we played our role in rejecting them, such as the loan agreements presented to Parliament. We have rejected all of them for five years now. We also rejected the state budget over the past years, and we had logical reasons. We held fast to the constitutional entitlement for spending on education and health. We saw that the budget does not meet the constitutional entitlements in these two areas, and we presented alternatives in line with our policy in the Egyptian Social Democratic Party.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We believe that rejection should not be merely for the sake of opposing; rather, we put ourselves in the government&#8217;s place and think about what we would have offered if we were in power. That is why we always participate positively and offer alternatives. When we rejected the last general budget, we submitted a proposal to rearrange it, and we called for reducing spending on unnecessary things and increasing spending on education and health in accordance with the Constitution. But in the end, all the proposals were rejected.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recommended reading: <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/mahanasser\/\">Maha Abdel Nasser: Unnecessary projects must be halted in favour of meeting citizens&#8217; needs<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/aida-seif-elldawla\/\">Aida Seif El-Dawla: Testimonies from the heart of the struggle against torture<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h1>The Economy<\/h1>\n<p><b><\/b><b>What is your comment on Egypt&#8217;s decline in the anti-corruption index that was announced recently?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Ad-o5Kqcj3c?si=dKeTSFpsZj-lBXm8\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Egypt&#8217;s decline in the global anti-corruption index was saddening. Egypt fell to 130th place out of 180 countries, after we had been in 100th place. This means that we are at the lowest levels of fighting corruption, and it is the biggest decline in 13 years, since we joined this organisation in 2012. At that time we had a score of 32, then we reached a score of 37 in 2014, and we recently fell to a score of 30 in the latest index, issued last month. This raises many question marks and sounds the alarm.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Corruption is like a cancer eating away at the body of the nation, and if we cannot remove it, it may finish us all off soon. There must be immediate intervention, because this affects many sectors, including the country&#8217;s reputation, attracting foreign investment, investor confidence and the economy in general. It also affects citizens&#8217; trust in their government, which pushes some to evade paying taxes, as they see an absence of transparency and believe that their money will not be spent properly.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This index also shows the absence of social justice, as huge salaries are paid in the government sector, while others do not even receive the minimum wage. There is also a crisis in hiring teachers on the pretext that there is no financial capacity, besides the fact that this index points to corruption in the government&#8217;s policies themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The matter is extremely serious, and I believe the Prime Minister should study the reasons that led to Egypt&#8217;s decline in the anti-corruption index. The role of oversight bodies such as the Central Auditing Organisation, the Administrative Control Authority and the Tax Evasion Control Authority must be activated. These bodies work efficiently, but their reports are often neglected and not put to use. The role of these bodies must be activated to ensure that we return to advanced positions in fighting corruption. In addition, the field must be opened freely to the press and the media to confront corruption without fear, and no one should be above the law or use their position to exploit the state. Everyone must be subject to accountability and scrutiny, each within the scope of their competence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>How do you see the economic situation, and what are the reasons that brought us to this situation?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/wdh2aMfkkeQ?si=d21B7Gk8Ksmkr4eM\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Everything is interconnected. When we talk about political reform and call for it, economic reform is linked to political reform. When you have an open political climate and political stability, this will lead to greater confidence among investors, which strengthens the economic sphere.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And when there is transparency in accountability and the state withdraws from monopolising the economy, there will certainly be an improvement in the economic situation, and this is what we called for in the Egyptian Social Democratic Party. We believe that the state must lift its hand from the economy and make room for the private sector, which is what international institutions have also called for. But so far, these steps have not been implemented as announced. For example, the state issued the &#8220;State Ownership Policy&#8221; document more than three years ago, but it has not been implemented in the way that was announced.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The state also issued a national anti-corruption strategy and established a national anti-corruption academy, but all of this is still ink on paper, and we have not seen actual implementation on the ground. Economic decline is linked to political decline, and if we want to reform the system, we must move in all directions: political, social and economic reform.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Regarding the &#8220;State Ownership Policy&#8221; document, what is your view on the sale of assets?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The &#8220;State Ownership Policy&#8221; document was a positive step, but the problem is the failure to commit to implementing it. One cannot talk about selling assets in general terms; there are rules that govern this. Many countries are moving towards selling assets, but according to clear controls.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we move to sell assets, we must know what we are selling, how, to whom and why. There are assets linked to national security, and these cannot be put up for sale. As for other assets, they can be sold if there is transparency, the sale is at a fair price, and we have the ability to invest the resulting money properly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For example, if an investor builds a residential compound or a real-estate development and it is sold, he can build another one. And if the state owns a small bank and it is privatised in favour of an investor, what is wrong with that? This may benefit the state. But the sale of assets must be subject to clear rules and controls, and the assets must be sold in a transparent and fair manner.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Were there other options available to the government to solve the economic crisis besides selling assets?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, there were other options in the past, but we have now reached a stage where the options have become very limited, and the government no longer has many alternatives. And when the government says it no longer has options, it should explain the reasons that brought it to this stage and how it got there. The government expanded borrowing and mega-projects on which it spent trillions, which made us an indebted country. We are no longer able to obtain grants and aid as was the case in past years, because some countries that used to provide us with aid have stopped doing so. So we are now in a situation that forces us to resort to selling assets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>What is your view of the measures the government is taking to protect the middle and poor classes from the repercussions of the economic crisis? Do you consider them sufficient?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/fv9Vouod5FQ?si=mjuN_NWHytsRAdwF\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The crisis is severe, and there is a growing number of citizens in dire need of support. Although the government has increased economic assistance and social packages, poverty is continually increasing, as are prices and inflation. Therefore, what the government provides is insufficient under the current circumstances.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe the government must work on two tracks in parallel. The first track is improving the state&#8217;s overall economy. When the economy improves, citizens will find job opportunities, prices will fall and the poverty rate will decrease. The second track is providing urgent assistance to the neediest groups, because the government is responsible for these groups reaching this level of poverty and need, and it must therefore provide them with the necessary social support urgently and effectively.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>What is your view of the direction the government recently announced regarding providing cash subsidies instead of in-kind subsidies for ration supplies?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Cash subsidies are a controversial topic, and opinions on them are divided. Some see them as good, while others oppose them. Personally, I believe cash subsidies are a good idea, provided they are implemented clearly and that their delivery to those entitled to them is guaranteed. The amount allocated for cash subsidies must also be reconsidered and reviewed periodically, in line with rising prices and inflation. It is important for the amount to be sufficient to meet basic needs or part of them, especially since we have a large proportion of citizens below the poverty line who are unable to buy their basic food needs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>What is your view of the external borrowing the government has undertaken over the past years and is still continuing?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/75GjFnRG7I0?si=_FDpeSCHS96J0pen\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are facing a disaster because of the loans and debts that have accumulated on us. As MPs for the Egyptian Social Democratic Party, we opposed all the loans presented to Parliament, because we saw that these loans deepen the crisis. We now face an external debt of $155 billion, the highest external debt in Egypt&#8217;s history. If we translate this amount into the local currency, it is equivalent to EGP 7.5 trillion, in addition to domestic debts of about EGP 8 trillion.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think many people do not realise how enormous this figure is. To clarify the picture: if we spent EGP 1 million a day, we would need 2,739 years to reach just one trillion. We are talking about 7.5 trillion in external debt and 8 trillion in domestic debt, which is a terrifying amount. But the greater disaster is: where did this money go? And why was borrowing done on this scale?<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All countries have debts, even developed ones, but the most important question is: how are these debts spent? The biggest problem is not only the borrowing, but how this money is used. Unfortunately, it was invested in projects without adequate feasibility studies and in spending vast sums on unnecessary things, without it going towards improving education or towards projects that ease citizens&#8217; suffering.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recommended reading: <\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/asmaamahfouz\/\">Asmaa Mahfouz: The slogans of January have not been achieved, and the authorities fear the opposition<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h1>Health and Education<\/h1>\n<p><b>What is your view of the policy the government is following on the education and health files?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/o4I6W2ZWg08?si=apHYvgnVNkgyrQj5\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I strongly criticised the new Minister of Education, and I submitted a briefing request concerning the minister&#8217;s degrees, in which I proved that his degree is not genuine, and I demanded that the title &#8220;Doctor&#8221; be removed from his name. I then criticised the policies the minister is following, as he moved quickly towards changes to the curricula a few weeks after his appointment, without referring to Parliament&#8217;s Education Committee, which displeased me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we talk about developing education, I am not satisfied with the current general secondary certificate system, nor with the education system as a whole. I believe education needs development, but this must be done in a studied and methodical way. The minister must take his time to study the best ways of developing it, and present plans to specialists, including Parliament&#8217;s Education Committee, which includes experts and representatives of the people, so that they can give their opinions and proposals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Unfortunately, what happened is that the government presented a proposal and is trying to impose it without a genuine dialogue with society; instead, it was content with consulting supporters of the idea. This is not a societal dialogue, but a one-sided dialogue. All opinions, whether supportive or opposing, must be heard in order to reach the optimal solution.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for education, the basic problem is the human element. We face a large shortage in the number of teachers, and their salaries are not sufficient. So the focus must first be on improving teachers&#8217; conditions before talking about changing the curricula or the examination system. Real reform begins with the human element.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In general, I believe the basic crisis in the health and education files lies in the government&#8217;s view of these files. The government does not consider education and health priorities, and this is evident from the financial allocations for these two sectors in the general budget. Reforming education and health requires a genuine will from the state and the government, and a clear vision that makes education and health two priorities. A sufficient budget must be allocated for investment in these fields, but this has not happened. <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Simply put, the government does not give education and health the attention they deserve and does not spend enough on them, and therefore these files do not reach the required level of reform.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recommended reading:  <a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/malek-adly\/\">Malek Adly: The pretrial detention crisis does not need a National Dialogue (interview)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h1>Human Rights<\/h1>\n<p><b>What is your comment on the criticism directed at Egypt regarding its human rights record?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To be objective, all countries face observations in the Universal Periodic Review on human rights. I do not want Egypt to go to this review just to look good before the international community; rather, I want the government to show domestic society that we respect human rights. It matters less to me that the government presents a decent image before the international community than that human rights standards are applied at home. The Egyptian citizen deserves to live in an environment that guarantees human rights, regardless of the international community&#8217;s view and how satisfied it is with Egypt&#8217;s record in this regard.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, we face a crisis in human rights and freedoms, but this is not Egypt&#8217;s problem alone. Many developed countries have similar crises, such as the United States. But the existence of crises in other countries does not mean that we should keep silent about the violations taking place inside Egypt. We aspire for our country to be better and to enjoy greater freedoms and human rights, for we, as the Egyptian people, deserve more rights and freedoms.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Do you think Parliament has real power to discuss rights and freedoms?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In theory, Parliament has great power under the Constitution, including the ability to hold the government accountable or dismiss it. But in practice, this has never happened because of the control of the overwhelming majority in Parliament, where the government&#8217;s supporters make up about 90%, and they therefore stand by the government in all cases, whether the government is wrong or right. So when we try to question the government or hold it accountable, we run up against the votes of the majority, which supports it automatically.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>You were one of the few MPs who spoke about the case of Alaa Abdel Fattah inside Parliament and demanded his release. Why did you do that despite the attacks you could expect? And how do you see the state&#8217;s handling of his case?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/k8LaIoNdmbc?si=o1ch666zN-klCBF1\" width=\"560\" height=\"500\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I am the only MP who used an official parliamentary tool in the case of Alaa Abdel Fattah, and I do not regret it. I believe this is the role I must play, even though I knew in advance that it would provoke a storm of attacks on me from some who support the state&#8217;s position. Some consider Alaa Abdel Fattah to be a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or believe that he should be imprisoned, and this is not true. Nevertheless, I faced numerous accusations because of my position, but I knew this would happen, and despite that I did what I consider a duty.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Legally, Alaa Abdel Fattah has completed his sentence and was supposed to be released last September, but this has not happened so far. On the humanitarian side, his mother went on hunger strike almost five months ago, and her health has deteriorated because she is elderly and wants freedom for her son after the end of his sentence.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I submitted this request in the spirit of a doctor seeking to save the life of a mother defending her son, and in the spirit of a parliamentarian demanding the application of the law and the Constitution. And the request I submitted is not related to Alaa Abdel Fattah alone; it included other similar cases, such as Mohamed Adel and Mohamed Oxygen, and other names I do not know personally, but whose stories I know, and I know that they completed their sentences and were not released.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I hope that Alaa Abdel Fattah will be released soon, along with everyone imprisoned because of an opinion that differs from the government&#8217;s or does not please it, whatever that opinion may be. Even if there are excesses in some opinions, this does not mean that people should be imprisoned. No one should be imprisoned because of a Facebook post or a word that angered the government.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Why have all the demands for Alaa Abdel Fattah&#8217;s release gone unanswered? And do you think there will be a breakthrough soon in the detainees file?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why has Alaa Abdel Fattah not been released? This is the question I raised in the briefing request. As for the possibility of a breakthrough in the detainees file, I hope so. I believe that releasing these prisoners in opinion cases is in the government&#8217;s interest before it is in the interest of the prisoners or their families. Allowing a margin of freedom and political releases will contribute to the stability of the state and be in the interest of everyone, and I hope this happens soon.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>With reference to the Criminal Procedure Law, do you think this law will end the pretrial detention crisis?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The matter is not only about the legal aspect; it is fundamentally linked to practices. It is true that the current law sets a limit on pretrial detention, but this is not the only problem. There are citizens who complete the legal period of pretrial detention and are then rotated into other cases on the same charges, so that they are detained again. This practice is known as &#8220;case rotation&#8221;, and it is a bigger problem than pretrial detention itself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The law sets the period of pretrial detention, but what happens on the ground is that some people are rotated into new cases after their pretrial detention period ends, and this is the real challenge. This problem cannot be solved by law alone; we need a genuine will and transparent practices that guarantee freedoms and stop this type of violation. The &#8220;case rotation&#8221; crisis is one of the biggest problems we face in the human rights file.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>The Zawia3 website was recently blocked and added to the list of blocked news websites without any official explanation. Did Parliament have a role it should have played regarding the blocking of websites? And what is your comment on the website-blocking crisis?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, Parliament could have used its parliamentary tools to ask the government to clarify the measures taken against the blocked websites, to question those responsible for this matter, and to demand an end to the blocking. But more importantly, the government or the bodies that take blocking decisions must understand that we are in 2025, and there is no such thing as blocking information or the media. The world has become small, and anyone can reach information in multiple ways.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Blocking opinion is not the solution. If there are platforms or channels that criticise the government, they should be answered with other opinions and the information corrected if it is wrong, not by blocking websites. Blocking opinion means that citizens will resort to every means to reach this information or these websites, because they want to know why the information was blocked from them. This is neither logical nor acceptable, even if we look at it from the government&#8217;s perspective. The solution does not lie in banning information and silencing voices, but in open discussion and dealing with information transparently.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Recommended reading: <a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/%d8%ac%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%84-%d8%b9%d9%8a%d8%af-%d8%a8%d8%b9%d8%b6-%d9%85%d8%a4%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%8a-%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%86%d8%b8%d8%a7%d9%85-%d9%8a%d8%a4%d9%8a%d8%af%d9%88%d9%86%d9%87-%d8%ae%d9%88%d9%81%d9%8b\/\">Gamal Eid: Some supporters of the regime support it out of fear; rule cannot continue through repression and impoverishment (interview)<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b><\/b><\/p>\n<h1><b>Regional Issues<\/b><\/h1>\n<p><b>What is your assessment of Parliament&#8217;s position on regional issues, especially the Palestinian cause? And what is your view of the Foreign Ministry&#8217;s performance?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the Palestinian cause, we in the Egyptian Social Democratic Party have expressed our opinion clearly: support for the Palestinian people, rejection of forced, voluntary or temporary displacement, and support for the Palestinians&#8217; right to establish their state. This is one of the few files on which we agreed with the government&#8217;s foreign policy and supported its position.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the parliamentary level, the state prefers to work on these sensitive files directly in cooperation with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the security agencies, and Parliament has not had a major role in these issues.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As for the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam issue, it began many years ago, and I believe there has been a shortcoming or delay in dealing with this file, which is what has brought us to this difficult situation. As for the Palestinian cause and the other files, I believe the Foreign Ministry&#8217;s performance has been good, and the results of the recent summit were positive. Even the countries that did not attend the summit were not influential with regard to the Egyptian plan, which was backed by approximately 57 Arab and Islamic countries, and there are positive moves towards more global support for this plan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b><\/b><b>Do you think Parliament should play a greater role in foreign policy?<\/b><b><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yes, I believe Parliament should have a greater role in foreign policy, and also in domestic policy. Parliament&#8217;s oversight and legislative role must expand and not be limited to passing laws submitted by the government. Parliament must have a more influential and independent role.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Recommended reading: <a href=\"https:\/\/zawia3.com\/en\/khaled-dawoud\/\">Khaled Dawoud to Zawia3: 10 years of oversight bodies being absent from holding the authorities to account (interview)<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<h1>Politics<b><\/b><\/h1>\n<p><b>Do you think the current Parliament is able to hold ministers accountable?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When the majority is with the government, the opposition represents less than 10% of Parliament, and the real opposition is less than 5%, it becomes very difficult to hold the government accountable or to stand against it. I hope this situation will change in the next Parliament, and that the opposition will have a larger share, reaching 40%. This would give Parliament and the government greater balance and force the government to think carefully before taking any decision. Parliament would then be able to hold the government to account and question it more effectively.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>What criteria should govern the selection of ministers in any cabinet reshuffle?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe the post of minister is not only an executive post; it is fundamentally a political one. A minister must be able to draw up public policy, not merely implement the government&#8217;s policies. He is supposed to have advisers who help him implement these policies. Ministers must also be selected with complete transparency, and there must be no conflict of interest. It is not right to appoint a minister who has private interests that conflict with his post. For example, the Minister of Education should not own private schools, nor should the Minister of Health own hospitals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\nDo you think the current political system needs reform?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Certainly, and this is not my opinion alone. At the Egyptian Family Iftar in 2022, President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi launched a call for a National Dialogue. I was present at that iftar, and I heard the president say that political reform had been delayed and that the time had come to begin this reform. The National Dialogue started from political reform, and then came talk of economic and social reform. The starting point was political reform, and this is what the president stressed, and at the time I praised this direction.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A good start to any treatment lies in acknowledging that there is a crisis, and if this call from the president means that there is a problem, then we are in real need of reform. We may have started addressing the crisis, but we have not finished yet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>On the subject of the National Dialogue, what is your comment on the National Dialogue experience? And were its outcomes seriously considered?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The National Dialogue was a good idea, and we as a party were among its first supporters. We participated in all the sessions, and we submitted policy papers and ideas for reform. I hope that the National Dialogue will not be merely an event that begins and ends, but rather an approach to managing political life, through participation and dialogue between the opposition, the loyalists and all political currents.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The beginning was very strong and saw momentum and the participation of specialists, but the outcomes were not as strong. I hope that in the future the outcomes of the National Dialogue will be seriously considered and work will be done to implement them, so that this effort does not go to waste and the citizen and the nation benefit from it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\nHow do you see the future of party life in Egypt?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The future of party life depends on the political will to open up the political sphere. Parties grow and flourish when they are part of government, or at least when they have a presence in Parliament and the media. But currently, the number of opposition MPs in Parliament is small, and the media are not sufficiently open to them, which limits their ability to communicate with the public.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Parties are not charities; their role is to practise politics. The success of parties therefore depends on providing them with media space and enabling them to express their policies, so that they reach public opinion and become part of decision-making.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><b>Is there a particular message you would like to send to the authorities or the government?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Political life rests on the existence of strong parties and party pluralism. It is not right for us to have politics without strong parties, because the existence of strong civil parties is a protection for the state and for national security. Fear of the return of the Muslim Brotherhood should not lead to a monopoly of a single opinion; rather, we must have strong civil parties that offer citizens multiple alternatives. 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